Studiostriver wrote:


I suggest you in a future to look at good metering plugin,there are tone on market,and freeware as well.
Just to level it as best as possible.

Daco_one wrote:

Sounded good man, kinda removes the synthetic software sound a little bit
and sounds more retro. Me like!!!

Yep! i hear that to... a more vintage sound...by the way i was using the power amps.. and i think they are a very usefull program... works just great ...since it captures the mojo of the unit...

let's say the fryette v2/90/2 .... with kt88 tubes ... the depth that this power amps programs give ar ejust awesome... i can only imaigne that the real version of those babes sound just great!

i don't have all the powr amps programs... but i think i have 3 if im not mistakesn... it just gives such nice "color" to the sound and sort of glues the audio ...

with the timed mode with all kernels on something like 20ms each...sounds great!

gabrielscruff man i realized how importat the input to nebula is. I noticed today that my signal was way to loud for nebula. Specific from my preamp in to the poweramp(ownhammer). Now i run vu meter before poweramp and before the cabs. Much better sound!!!!

Daco_one wrote:

gabrielscruff man i realized how importat the input to nebula is. I noticed today that my signal was way to loud for nebula. Specific from my preamp in to the poweramp(ownhammer). Now i run vu meter before poweramp and before the cabs. Much better sound!!!!

yes man when you are on the sweet spot of the hardware.... man it sounds amazing!!! but if you just go up a little.. you can get some crazy sounds in a bad way...

have you watch this video about nebula gain staging? the vu method is very usefull you are just on the right path with that approach my friend!

gabrielscruff wrote:

Daco_one wrote:

gabrielscruff man i realized how importat the input to nebula is. I noticed today that my signal was way to loud for nebula. Specific from my preamp in to the poweramp(ownhammer). Now i run vu meter before poweramp and before the cabs. Much better sound!!!!

yes man when you are on the sweet spot of the hardware.... man it sounds amazing!!! but if you just go up a little.. you can get some crazy sounds in a bad way...

have you watch this video about nebula gain staging? the vu method is very usefull you are just on the right path with that approach my friend!

I using vu meter on all my guitar tracks since 2010 when I watched some tutorials at that time talking about loud war etc..Its really essential for good mix.

This video is nice explanations how to deal about little bit unfriendly Nebula gui and parameters.
I maybe buy Nebula in 2 months when I spend some cash,but unforunetalely ownhammer selling no more Nebula cabs,A pity.

Yeah i Saw no more power amps or cabs for nebula from ownhammer, When i saw that i uploaded all ownhammer nebula stuff to My G drive, i Think also gabrielscruff did lol. Besides ownhammer you dont have so much cabs for nebula, at least not that good. Maybe some Marshall from kalthallen or what his name is.

yes no more nebula cabs and power amps from ownhammer... at least right now...

maybe a future release can be a nice add to the plataform... right know i only recomend buy nebula if the person really want to use with other tools... like tape, consoles, mojo from hardware and etc...

they need to release nebula 4 more stable more user friendly and with improved cpu resources usage...

but at the moment they are very focused on the aquas... since they are more direct and more user friendly..

but i think they are working on version 4 behind the scenes... and they actually say that aquas are "nebula 4" sort of same engine... and stuff... (all of that is my own opinion...and from other web forums ...don't take my word as a official announcement) .

i really hope to see the tech evolve and maybe in a near future we can see a better engine, better performance, user friendly, and some 3dr party developers just like Kevin form ownhammer can release the products with the tech at its best...

i would love to see a even better version of the actually guitar cabs that we have right now... if Kevin come up with something even better... something like the "pro-concolver approach"be able to change the axis of the mic..position.. with the fader... we already have something like that ..but improvements are more than welcome ....and all this inside the nebula engine and with nebula dynamic convolution process... and the "future updated 64 bit nat ....

but right now we can enjoy the plataform as it is with awesome hardware samples... and with some great developers that are truly musicians and friends!

DACO .. yes man i have a 3 backup for my audio related programs and tools... we need to be prepared for unpleasant "gear failure" ...

Yeah man the cab market for nebula is pretty much dead. Ownhammers latest marshall for nebula is for me the best cab in the digital context. There is plenty of speakers in there so you can modify the sound for music taste. Some speakers are very mellow sounding like a smaller cab and some speakers are much bigger sounding, so you get a lot from the Marshall package and it sounds awesome. I also use FRYTH power amp for heavier stuff and the egnater 6v6 for classic rock. Kevin sad that this poweramp is sampled from a smaller amp where the fryth is from a hi gain amp. AE have som mesa stuff but is not so good sounding as Marshall from ownhammer so i stick to that one. As i sad the big choice of speaker in the Marshall package gives you options for many music styles.

Daco -

Agree ! i was reading in another forum.. the talk was about irs and cabs... one of the guys said the simple truth... "if you capture a cabinet the right way, the way it sounds... with the mics you want... you have that sound and you don't need to change any other stuff... only eq on close mics... since the closed mic sound is hardly used on records without a little eq... "

i think he is right... and i found myself using the same cab from ownhammer over and over again.. since to my ears the sound i can get is very useful with no effort... i just need to work more with this post eq use... not only the low and high pass basics... but tailor with the song... and the results are much better.

i think guitars can sound very diferent trough diferent cabs.... and my guitar seems to love the mix vintage 4x12 with hpr 55 speakers... this is the speaker that i go for most of the time... works really well since translate the sound on my head.

the power speakers add so much to the sound.... i just love the way they GLUE the sound together ... is hard to explain... but without the power amp like the fryette the sound is a little loose... to my ears, but when i turn the power amp on, the sound sort of gels all together...

i still wait for what the future holds for this tech ... amp sims and plugins in general.... is nice to have a
"studio" right at your finger tips... and in such a compact size...and price

Yo gabrielscruff

In Nebula reverb try to use the maximum CUDA kernels. Nebula then also process on your gpu. The cpu dropped BIG TIME. I think i can now use several nebula instances.

tks for the tip man ! .... i need to try it out ! cuda stuff help for sure !

that duke amp sounds lovely !!!

im experimenting with different gain stages to create a better signal before hit the sgear input... this time im using a compressor with very little compression just the "input drive" to add a little bit to the sound... and a nebula library from a hardware unit the thermionic culture vulture with the 6khz filter on ... that way the sound gets very "amp like" more dark and "vintage" to my ears...

the sound with nebula ...
www.mediafire.com/listen/w1q6nmlpvadvh0e/duke+fx.wav


the sound without nebula ...
www.mediafire.com/listen/ci1zfb1suol3iiq/duke+n+off.wav

the sound eith nebula but without delay ...
www.mediafire.com/listen/z146hf5wpepf6u7/duke+n.wav

just a little solo with the base sound (with nebula on both tracks)
www.mediafire.com/listen/myqhxc50xsnhrbq/duke+clip.wav

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ownhammer IRS used on all the samples... but what gets me thinking is that i almost didn't tweak the amp ... and the sounds was just cool !

Sounds really good man. Real vintage tones. Nebula does the organic trick. You can hear something like the speaker moves with sound that just does not exist in static IR

What is your lantecy when playing with nebula cabs ?
you runing both s-gear and nebula when playing ?

I prefer the clip without Nebula. It's more life-like to me. There are some mid- and upper-harmonics that are lost with Nebula engaged. Switching back to the other clip, the tone comes back to life.

The Nebula clip sounds warmer because the highs are lost. If it were me I'd probably start with the basic S-Gear, non-Nebula, chain and add a touch of compression and maybe some tape saturation.

bro try this eq. Its free, sounds as good as stock nebulas eq.
I use it between my hardware preamp and nebula/mercuriall. Very vintage sounding and has a drive for more harmonics and presence in upper freq.

And it is not choking your cpu!!!

sonimus.com/products/soneq/

Daco_one wrote:

Sounds really good man. Real vintage tones

What is your lantecy when playing with nebula cabs ?
you runing both s-gear and nebula when playing ?

Hey Daco tks mate!

My normal latency is very very low.... i can get zero or at least i can't feel latecny at all if i play with sgear and irs ..no nebula...

this is possible because my daw..studio one 3 have the cue mix zero latency monitoring feature compatible with my audio interface... if i engage nebula as cabinet the latency is 5ms... i can't notice any latency with this settings...

even with 2 nebulas i.e - sgear only amp on... nebula power amp... nebula cabinet.... the latency gets bigger 11 ms.... but still very hard to notice....

i can get a better response with the 5ms setup... but sometimes i enjoy the 2 nebulas setup.... since i can hear some awesome sound... is hard to turn it off... the sound kind of dies...


and YES i never record only DI... i need to listen to the "finshed" sound ...i can't believe how some folks work on some riffs with only the di sound... and apply the amp after that... for me is not music ... is just a studio " job ...

the joy of being a guitarrist is to hear the sounds inside your head.. how can someone "imagine" the sound on their heads while playing a di sound?

is just a double trouble... at least imo...

elambo wrote:

I prefer the clip without Nebula. It's more life-like to me. There are some mid- and upper-harmonics that are lost with Nebula engaged.

The Nebula clip sounds warmer because the highs are lost. If it were me I'd probably start with the basic S-Gear, non-Nebula, chain and add a touch of compression and maybe some tape saturation.

every single sounclip that i've posted across the years is just to share ideas and not to sell a product... please keep that in mind when you hit these tread... "ideas" "creativity" remember that ... im not trying to set rules or to show the best and worst scenario....

midrange upper harmonic loss is due to the filter on the thermionic ... on the 6khz ... i've pointed that out.... is just a sound that a normal algo eq can't give... that "dark" sound can work as a tone possibility... is not the best tone in the world... is just a option....

you can work with the tools that you have without need to but new stuff... just like you said... you would use the no nebula chain... because you don't have and don't need nebula ... its fair enough for me...

but again.. ideas... creativity and possibilities ... not rules , not better and worst scenario .... i think even after a loooooonnnnnng and very visited tread the main reason is obascure somehow...

people tend to always focus on the selling point of products... and sometimes the creative aspect get lost on the process ... im not a bussiness man.... im just a simple guitarrist... and not a great one... im just learning and in this process i enjoy the 'share" aspect of my growth ...

I knew it was just a casual recording -- just offering my casual opinion.

elambo wrote:

I knew it was just a casual recording -- just offering my casual opinion.

and opinion is more than welcome to my point of view... i enjoy to listen to what people thing... many times it can help you to improve...

i know is not perfect but just want to share this little clip... both guitars are stealer and nebula cabs...

www.mediafire.com/listen/sha2f8agswsavm3/B.wav